0.3KiṁdiṭṭhikasuttaWhat is Your View?
1.1PTS 5.185Ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.At one time the Buddha was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery.
1.2Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati divā divassa sāvatthiyā nikkhami bhagavantaṁ dassanāya.Then the householder Anāthapiṇḍika left Sāvatthī in the middle of the day to see the Buddha.1.3Atha kho anāthapiṇḍikassa gahapatissa etadahosi:Then it occurred to him,1.4“akālo kho tāva bhagavantaṁ dassanāya.“It’s the wrong time to see the Buddha,1.5Paṭisallīno bhagavā.as he’s in retreat.1.6Manobhāvanīyānampi bhikkhūnaṁ akālo dassanāya.And it’s the wrong time to see the esteemed mendicants,1.7Paṭisallīnā manobhāvanīyā bhikkhū.as they’re in retreat.1.8Yannūnāhaṁ yena aññatitthiyānaṁ paribbājakānaṁ ārāmo tenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.Why don’t I visit the monastery for the wanderers of other religions?”
2.1Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati yena aññatitthiyānaṁ paribbājakānaṁ ārāmo tenupasaṅkami.Then he went to the monastery for the wanderers of other religions.2.2Tena kho pana samayena aññatitthiyā paribbājakā saṅgamma samāgamma unnādino uccāsaddamahāsaddā anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ kathentā nisinnā honti.Now at that time, the wanderers of other religions had come together, making an uproar, a colossal racket as they sat and talked about all kinds of low topics.
2.3Addasaṁsu kho te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ dūratova āgacchantaṁ.They saw Anāthapiṇḍika coming off in the distance,2.4Disvāna aññamaññaṁ saṇṭhāpesuṁ:and stopped each other, saying,2.5“appasaddā bhonto hontu, mā bhonto saddamakattha.“Be quiet, good fellows, don’t make a sound.2.6Ayaṁ anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati ārāmaṁ āgacchati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako.The householder Anāthapiṇḍika, a disciple of the ascetic Gotama, is coming into our monastery.2.7Yāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā gihī odātavasanā sāvatthiyaṁ paṭivasanti, ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati.He is included among the white-clothed lay disciples of the ascetic Gotama, who is residing in Sāvatthī.2.8Appasaddakāmā kho pana te āyasmanto appasaddavinītā appasaddassa vaṇṇavādino.Such venerables like the quiet, are educated to be quiet, and praise the quiet.2.9Appeva nāma appasaddaṁ parisaṁ viditvā upasaṅkamitabbaṁ maññeyyā”ti.Hopefully if he sees that our assembly is quiet he’ll see fit to approach.”
3.1PTS 5.186Atha kho te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā tuṇhī ahesuṁ.Then those wanderers of other religions fell silent.3.2Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati yena te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā tehi aññatitthiyehi paribbājakehi saddhiṁ sammodi.Then Anāthapiṇḍika went up to them, and exchanged greetings with those wanderers.3.3Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā etadavocuṁ:When the greetings and polite conversation were over, he sat down to one side. The wanderers said to him,3.4“vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhiko samaṇo gotamo”ti?“Tell us, householder, what is the view of the ascetic Gotama?”
3.5“Na kho ahaṁ, bhante, bhagavato sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāmī”ti.“Sirs, I don’t know all his views.”
4.1“Iti kira tvaṁ, gahapati, na samaṇassa gotamassa sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi;“Well then, since it seems you don’t know all the views of the ascetic Gotama,4.2vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhikā bhikkhū”ti?tell us, what are the views of the mendicants?”
4.3“Bhikkhūnampi kho ahaṁ, bhante, na sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāmī”ti.“Sirs, I don’t know all the mendicants’ views.”
5.1“Iti kira tvaṁ, gahapati, na samaṇassa gotamassa sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi napi bhikkhūnaṁ sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi;“Well then, since it seems you don’t know all the views of the ascetic Gotama or of the mendicants,5.2vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhikosi tuvan”ti?tell us, householder, what is your view?”
5.3“Etaṁ kho, bhante, amhehi na dukkaraṁ byākātuṁ yaṁdiṭṭhikā mayaṁ.“Sirs, it’s not hard for me to explain what my views are.5.4Iṅgha tāva āyasmanto yathāsakāni diṭṭhigatāni byākarontu, pacchāpetaṁ amhehi na dukkaraṁ bhavissati byākātuṁ yaṁdiṭṭhikā mayan”ti.But please, let the venerables explain their own convictions first. Afterwards it won’t be hard for me to explain my views.”
6.1Evaṁ vutte, aññataro paribbājako anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavoca:When he said this, one of the wanderers said to him,6.2“sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—“The cosmos is eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.6.3evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī”ti.That’s my view, householder.”
7.1Aññataropi kho paribbājako anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavoca:Another wanderer said,7.2“asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—“The cosmos is not eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.7.3evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī”ti.That’s my view, householder.”
8.1Aññataropi kho paribbājako anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavoca:Another wanderer said,8.2“antavā loko …pe…“The cosmos is finite …” …8.3anantavā loko …“The cosmos is infinite …” …8.4taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ …“The soul and the body are one and the same …” …8.5aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …“The soul is one thing, the body another …” …8.6hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …“A realized one still exists after death …” …8.7na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …“A realized one no longer exists after death …” …8.8hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …“A realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death …” …8.9neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—“A Realized One neither still exists nor no longer exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.8.10evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī”ti.That’s my view, householder.”
9.1PTS 5.187Evaṁ vutte, anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati te paribbājake etadavoca:When this was said, Anāthapiṇḍika said this,9.2“yvāyaṁ, bhante, āyasmā evamāha:“Sirs, regarding the venerable who said this:9.3‘sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—‘The cosmos is eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.9.4evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī’ti,That’s my view, householder.’9.5imassa ayamāyasmato diṭṭhi attano vā ayonisomanasikārahetu uppannā paratoghosapaccayā vā.This view of his has either arisen from his own irrational application of mind, or is conditioned by what someone else says.9.6Sā kho panesā diṭṭhi bhūtā saṅkhatā cetayitā paṭiccasamuppannā.But that view is created, conditioned, chosen, dependently originated.9.7Yaṁ kho pana kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.Whatever is created, conditioned, chosen, and dependently originated is impermanent.9.8Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.And what’s impermanent is suffering.9.9Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeveso āyasmā allīno, tadeveso āyasmā ajjhupagato.What he clings to and holds to is just suffering.
10.1Yopāyaṁ, bhante, āyasmā evamāha:Regarding the venerable who said this:10.2‘asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—‘The cosmos is not eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.10.3evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī’ti,That’s my view, householder.’10.4imassāpi ayamāyasmato diṭṭhi attano vā ayonisomanasikārahetu uppannā paratoghosapaccayā vā.This view of his has either arisen from his own irrational application of mind, or is conditioned by what someone else says.10.5Sā kho panesā diṭṭhi bhūtā saṅkhatā cetayitā paṭiccasamuppannā.But that view is created, conditioned, chosen, dependently originated.10.6Yaṁ kho pana kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.Whatever is created, conditioned, chosen, and dependently originated is impermanent.10.7Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.And what’s impermanent is suffering.10.8Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeveso āyasmā allīno, tadeveso āyasmā ajjhupagato.What he clings to and holds to is just suffering.
11.1Yopāyaṁ, bhante, āyasmā evamāha:Regarding the venerable who said this:11.2‘antavā loko …pe…‘The cosmos is finite …’ …11.3anantavā loko …‘The cosmos is infinite …’ …11.4taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ …‘The soul and the body are one and the same …’ …11.5aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …‘The soul is one thing, the body another …’ …11.6hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one still exists after death …’ …11.7na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one no longer exists after death …’ …11.8hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death …’ …11.9neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—‘A Realized One neither still exists nor no longer exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile.11.10evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī’ti,That’s my view, householder.’11.11imassāpi ayamāyasmato diṭṭhi attano vā ayonisomanasikārahetu uppannā paratoghosapaccayā vā.This view of his has either arisen from his own irrational application of mind, or is conditioned by what someone else says.11.12Sā kho panesā diṭṭhi bhūtā saṅkhatā cetayitā paṭiccasamuppannā.But that view is created, conditioned, chosen, dependently originated.11.13Yaṁ kho pana kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.Whatever is created, conditioned, chosen, and dependently originated is impermanent.11.14Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.And what’s impermanent is suffering.11.15Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeveso āyasmā allīno, tadeveso āyasmā ajjhupagato”ti.What he clings to and holds to is just suffering.”
12.1PTS 5.188Evaṁ vutte te paribbājakā anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavocuṁ:When he said this the wanderers said to him,12.2“byākatāni kho, gahapati, amhehi sabbeheva yathāsakāni diṭṭhigatāni.“Householder, we’ve each explained our own convictions.12.3Vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhikosi tuvan”ti?Tell us, householder, what is your view?”
12.4“Yaṁ kho, bhante, kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.“Sirs, whatever is created, conditioned, chosen, and dependently originated is impermanent.12.5Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.And what’s impermanent is suffering.12.6‘Yaṁ dukkhaṁ taṁ netaṁ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti—And what’s suffering is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self.12.7evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, bhante”ti.That’s my view, sirs.”
13.1“Yaṁ kho, gahapati, kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.“Householder, whatever is created, conditioned, chosen, and dependently originated is impermanent.13.2Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.And what’s impermanent is suffering.13.3Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeva tvaṁ, gahapati, allīno, tadeva tvaṁ, gahapati, ajjhupagato”ti.What you cling to and hold to is just suffering.”
14.1“Yaṁ kho, bhante, kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.“Sirs, whatever is created, conditioned, chosen, and dependently originated is impermanent.14.2Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.And what’s impermanent is suffering.14.3‘Yaṁ dukkhaṁ taṁ netaṁ mama, nesohamasmi, nameso attā’ti—evametaṁ yathābhūtaṁ sammappaññāya sudiṭṭhaṁ.And I’ve truly seen clearly with right wisdom that what’s suffering is not mine, I am not this, it’s not my self.14.4Tassa ca uttari nissaraṇaṁ yathābhūtaṁ pajānāmī”ti.And I truly understand the escape beyond that.”
15.1Evaṁ vutte te paribbājakā tuṇhībhūtā maṅkubhūtā pattakkhandhā adhomukhā pajjhāyantā appaṭibhānā nisīdiṁsu.When this was said, those wanderers sat silent, dismayed, shoulders drooping, downcast, depressed, with nothing to say.15.2Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati te paribbājake tuṇhībhūte maṅkubhūte pattakkhandhe adhomukhe pajjhāyante appaṭibhāne viditvā uṭṭhāyāsanā yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi. Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati yāvatako ahosi tehi aññatitthiyehi paribbājakehi saddhiṁ kathāsallāpo taṁ sabbaṁ bhagavato ārocesi.Seeing this, Anāthapiṇḍika rose from his seat. He went to the Buddha, bowed, sat down to one side, and informed the Buddha of all they had discussed.
15.3“Sādhu sādhu, gahapati.“Good, good, householder!15.4Evaṁ kho te, gahapati, moghapurisā kālena kālaṁ sahadhammena suniggahitaṁ niggahetabbā”ti.That’s how you should legitimately and completely refute those futile men from time to time.”
16.1PTS 5.189Atha kho bhagavā anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ dhammiyā kathāya sandassesi samādapesi samuttejesi sampahaṁsesi.Then the Buddha educated, encouraged, fired up, and inspired the householder Anāthapiṇḍika with a Dhamma talk,16.2Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati bhagavatā dhammiyā kathāya sandassito samādapito samuttejito sampahaṁsito uṭṭhāyāsanā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā padakkhiṇaṁ katvā pakkāmi.after which Anāthapiṇḍika got up from his seat, bowed, and respectfully circled the Buddha, keeping him on his right, before leaving.
17.1Atha kho bhagavā acirapakkante anāthapiṇḍike gahapatimhi bhikkhū āmantesi:Then, not long after Anāthapiṇḍika had left, the Buddha addressed the mendicants:17.2“yopi so, bhikkhave, bhikkhu vassasatupasampanno imasmiṁ dhammavinaye, sopi evamevaṁ aññatitthiye paribbājake sahadhammena suniggahitaṁ niggaṇheyya yathā taṁ anāthapiṇḍikena gahapatinā niggahitā”ti.“Mendicants, even a mendicant who has ordained for a hundred years in this teaching and training would legitimately and completely refute those wanderers of other religions just as the householder Anāthapiṇḍika did.”
17.3Tatiyaṁ.