1.1PTS 5.196Ekaṁ samayaṁ āyasmā ānando rājagahe viharati tapodārāme.At one time Venerable Ānanda was staying near Rājagaha in the Hot Springs Monastery.1.2Atha kho āyasmā ānando rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ paccuṭṭhāya yena tapodā tenupasaṅkami gattāni parisiñcituṁ.Then Ānanda rose at the crack of dawn and went to the hot springs to bathe.1.3Tapodāya gattāni parisiñcitvā paccuttaritvā ekacīvaro aṭṭhāsi gattāni pubbāpayamāno.When he had bathed and emerged from the water he stood in one robe drying his limbs.1.4Kokanudopi kho paribbājako rattiyā paccūsasamayaṁ paccuṭṭhāya yena tapodā tenupasaṅkami gattāni parisiñcituṁ.The wanderer Kokanada also rose at the crack of dawn and went to the hot springs to bathe.

2.1Addasā kho kokanudo paribbājako āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ dūratova āgacchantaṁ.He saw Ānanda coming off in the distance2.2Disvāna āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ etadavoca:and said to him,2.3“kvettha, āvuso”ti?“Who’s here, reverend?”

2.4“Ahamāvuso, bhikkhū”ti.“I’m a mendicant, reverend.”

3.1“Katamesaṁ, āvuso, bhikkhūnan”ti?“Of which mendicants?”

3.2“Samaṇānaṁ, āvuso, sakyaputtiyānan”ti.“Of the ascetics who follow the Sakyan.”

4.1“Puccheyyāma mayaṁ āyasmantaṁ kiñcideva desaṁ, sace āyasmā okāsaṁ karoti pañhassa veyyākaraṇāyā”ti.“I’d like to ask the venerable about a certain point, if you’d take the time to answer.”

4.2“Pucchāvuso, sutvā vedissāmā”ti.“Ask, reverend. When I’ve heard it I’ll know.”

5.1“Kiṁ nu kho, bho, ‘sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti—evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan”ti?“Is this your view: ‘The cosmos is eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?”

5.2“Na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi:“That’s not my view, reverend.”5.3‘sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’”ti.

6.1“Kiṁ pana, bho, ‘asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti—evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan”ti?“Then is this your view: ‘The cosmos is not eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?”

6.2“Na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi:“That’s not my view, reverend.”6.3‘asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’”ti.

7.1PTS 5.197“Kiṁ nu kho, bho, antavā loko …pe…“Then is this your view: ‘The cosmos is finite …’ …7.2anantavā loko …‘The cosmos is infinite …’ …7.3taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ …‘The soul and the body are one and the same …’ …7.4aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …‘The soul is one thing, the body another …’ …7.5hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one still exists after death …’ …7.6na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one no longer exists after death …’ …7.7hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death …’ …7.8neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan”ti?‘A realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile’?”

7.9“Na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi:“That’s not my view, reverend.”7.10‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’”ti.

8.1“Tena hi bhavaṁ na jānāti, na passatī”ti?“Then, sir, do you neither know nor see?”

8.2“Na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, na jānāmi na passāmi.“That’s not so, reverend.8.3Jānāmahaṁ, āvuso, passāmī”ti.I do know and see.”

9.1“‘Kiṁ nu kho, bho, sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—“When asked about all these points, you say that’s not your view.9.2evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:9.3‘na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi—9.4sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti vadesi.

10.1‘Kiṁ pana, bho, asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—10.2evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavan’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:10.3‘na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi—10.4asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti vadesi.

11.1Kiṁ nu kho, bho, antavā loko …pe…11.2anantavā loko …11.3taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ …11.4aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …11.5hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …11.6na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …11.7hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …11.8neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti—11.9evaṁdiṭṭhi bhavanti, iti puṭṭho samāno:11.10‘na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, evaṁdiṭṭhi—11.11neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti vadesi.

12.1‘Tena hi bhavaṁ na jānāti na passatī’ti, iti puṭṭho samāno:Yet when asked whether you neither know nor see,12.2‘na kho ahaṁ, āvuso, na jānāmi na passāmi.you say, ‘That’s not so, reverend.12.3Jānāmahaṁ, āvuso, passāmī’ti vadesi.I do know and see.’12.4Yathā kathaṁ panāvuso, imassa bhāsitassa attho daṭṭhabbo”ti?How then should we see the meaning of this statement?”

13.1PTS 5.198“‘Sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti kho, āvuso, diṭṭhigatametaṁ.“‘The cosmos is eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile:’ that’s a misconception.13.2‘Asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti kho, āvuso, diṭṭhigatametaṁ.‘The cosmos is not eternal. This is the only truth, anything else is futile:’ that’s a misconception.13.3Antavā loko …pe…‘The cosmos is finite …’ …13.4anantavā loko …‘The cosmos is infinite …’ …13.5taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ …‘The soul and the body are one and the same …’ …13.6aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …‘The soul is one thing, the body another …’ …13.7hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one still exists after death …’ …13.8na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one no longer exists after death …’ …13.9hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …‘A realized one both still exists and no longer exists after death …’ …13.10‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññan’ti kho, āvuso, diṭṭhigatametaṁ.‘A realized one neither still exists nor no longer exists after death. This is the only truth, anything else is futile:’ that’s a misconception.

14.1Yāvatā, āvuso, diṭṭhi yāvatā diṭṭhiṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhiadhiṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhipariyuṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhisamuṭṭhānaṁ diṭṭhisamugghāto, tamahaṁ jānāmi tamahaṁ passāmi.I know and see the scope of convictions, the scope of grounds for views, fixation on views, obsession with views, the origin of views, and the uprooting of views.14.2Tamahaṁ jānanto tamahaṁ passanto kyāhaṁ vakkhāmi:Knowing and seeing thus, why should I say:14.3‘na jānāmi na passāmī’ti?‘I neither know nor see?’14.4Jānāmahaṁ, āvuso, passāmī”ti.I do know and see.”

15.1“Ko nāmo āyasmā, kathañca panāyasmantaṁ sabrahmacārī jānantī”ti?“What is the venerable’s name? And how are you known among your spiritual companions?”

15.2“‘Ānando’ti kho me, āvuso, nāmaṁ.“Reverend, my name is Ānanda.15.3‘Ānando’ti ca pana maṁ sabrahmacārī jānantī”ti.And that’s how I’m known among my spiritual companions.”

15.4“Mahācariyena vata kira, bho, saddhiṁ mantayamānā na jānimha:“Goodness! I had no idea I was consulting such a great tutor as15.5‘āyasmā ānando’ti.Venerable Ānanda!15.6Sace hi mayaṁ jāneyyāma:If I had known who15.7‘ayaṁ āyasmā ānando’ti, ettakampi no nappaṭibhāyeyya.you were, I wouldn’t have said so much.15.8Khamatu ca me āyasmā ānando”ti.May Venerable Ānanda please forgive me.”

15.9Chaṭṭhaṁ.