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SN 12.64PTS SN 2.1015 min read

If There is Desire

Atthirāgasutta

The Buddha defines the four kinds of “food” or “nutriment”, which include edible food, contact, intention, and consciousness, showing how they lead to suffering according to dependent origination.

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato · Pāli: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka · Public domain (CC0) via SuttaCentral

  • 0.1Saṁyutta Nikāya 12.64Linked Discourses 12.64
  • 0.27. Mahāvagga7. The Great Chapter

0.3AtthirāgasuttaIf There is Desire

1.1PTS 2.101Sāvatthiyaṁ viharati.At Sāvatthī.

1.2“Cattārome, bhikkhave, āhārā bhūtānaṁ vā sattānaṁ ṭhitiyā sambhavesīnaṁ vā anuggahāya.“Mendicants, these four fuels maintain sentient beings that have been born and help those about to be born.1.3Katame cattāro?What four?1.4Kabaḷīkāro āhāro oḷāriko vā sukhumo vā, phasso dutiyo, manosañcetanā tatiyā, viññāṇaṁ catutthaṁ.Edible food, whether solid or subtle; contact is the second, mental intention the third, and consciousness the fourth.1.5Ime kho, bhikkhave, cattāro āhārā bhūtānaṁ vā sattānaṁ ṭhitiyā sambhavesīnaṁ vā anuggahāya.These are the four fuels that maintain sentient beings that have been born and help those about to be born.

2.1Kabaḷīkāre ce, bhikkhave, āhāre atthi rāgo atthi nandī atthi taṇhā, patiṭṭhitaṁ tattha viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ.If there is desire, relishing, and craving for edible food, consciousness becomes established there and grows.12.2Yattha patiṭṭhitaṁ viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ, atthi tattha nāmarūpassa avakkanti.Where consciousness is established and grows, name and form are conceived.2.3Yattha atthi nāmarūpassa avakkanti, atthi tattha saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi.Where name and form are conceived, there is the growth of choices.22.4Yattha atthi saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi, atthi tattha āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti.Where choices grow, there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future.32.5Yattha atthi āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti, atthi tattha āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ.Where there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future, there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future.2.6Yattha atthi āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ, sasokaṁ taṁ, bhikkhave, sadaraṁ saupāyāsanti vadāmi.Where there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future, I say this is full of sorrow, anguish, and distress.

3.1Phasse ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …pe…If there is desire, relishing, and craving for contact as fuel …3.2manosañcetanāya ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …If there is desire, relishing, and craving for mental intention as fuel …3.3viññāṇe ce, bhikkhave, āhāre atthi rāgo atthi nandī atthi taṇhā, patiṭṭhitaṁ tattha viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ.If there is desire, relishing, and craving for consciousness as fuel, consciousness becomes established there and grows.3.4Yattha patiṭṭhitaṁ viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ, atthi tattha nāmarūpassa avakkanti.Where consciousness is established and grows, name and form are conceived.3.5Yattha atthi nāmarūpassa avakkanti, atthi tattha saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi.Where name and form are conceived, there is the growth of choices.3.6Yattha atthi saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi, atthi tattha āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti.Where choices grow, there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future.3.7Yattha atthi āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti, atthi tattha āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ.Where there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future, there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future.3.8Yattha atthi āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ, sasokaṁ taṁ, bhikkhave, sadaraṁ saupāyāsanti vadāmi.Where there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future, I say this is full of sorrow, anguish, and distress.

4.1PTS 2.102Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, rajako vā cittakārako vā sati rajanāya vā lākhāya vā haliddiyā vā nīliyā vā mañjiṭṭhāya vā suparimaṭṭhe vā phalake bhittiyā vā dussapaṭṭe vā itthirūpaṁ vā purisarūpaṁ vā abhinimmineyya sabbaṅgapaccaṅgaṁ;Suppose an artist or painter had some dye, red lac, turmeric, indigo, or rose madder. And on a polished plank or a wall or a canvas they’d create the form of a woman or a man, whole in its major and minor limbs.

4.2evameva kho, bhikkhave, kabaḷīkāre ce āhāre atthi rāgo atthi nandī atthi taṇhā, patiṭṭhitaṁ tattha viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ.In the same way, if there is desire, relishing, and craving for edible food, consciousness becomes established there and grows.4.3Yattha patiṭṭhitaṁ viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ, atthi tattha nāmarūpassa avakkanti.Where consciousness is established and grows, name and form are conceived.4.4Yattha atthi nāmarūpassa avakkanti, atthi tattha saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi.Where name and form are conceived, there is the growth of choices.4.5Yattha atthi saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi, atthi tattha āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti.Where choices grow, there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future.4.6Yattha atthi āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti, atthi tattha āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ.Where there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future, there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future.4.7Yattha atthi āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ, sasokaṁ taṁ, bhikkhave, sadaraṁ saupāyāsanti vadāmi.Where there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future, I say this is full of sorrow, anguish, and distress.

5.1Phasse ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …pe…If there is desire, relishing, and craving for contact as fuel …5.2manosañcetanāya ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …If there is desire, relishing, and craving for mental intention as fuel …5.3viññāṇe ce, bhikkhave, āhāre atthi rāgo atthi nandī atthi taṇhā, patiṭṭhitaṁ tattha viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ.If there is desire, relishing, and craving for consciousness as fuel, consciousness becomes established there and grows.5.4Yattha patiṭṭhitaṁ viññāṇaṁ virūḷhaṁ, atthi tattha nāmarūpassa avakkanti.Where consciousness is established and grows, name and form are conceived.5.5Yattha atthi nāmarūpassa avakkanti, atthi tattha saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi.Where name and form are conceived, there is the growth of choices.5.6Yattha atthi saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi, atthi tattha āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti.Where choices grow, there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future.5.7Yattha atthi āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti, atthi tattha āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ.Where there is regeneration into a new state of existence in the future, there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future.5.8Yattha atthi āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ, sasokaṁ taṁ, bhikkhave, sadaraṁ saupāyāsanti vadāmi.Where there is rebirth, old age, and death in the future, I say this is full of sorrow, anguish, and distress.

6.1Kabaḷīkāre ce, bhikkhave, āhāre natthi rāgo natthi nandī natthi taṇhā, appatiṭṭhitaṁ tattha viññāṇaṁ avirūḷhaṁ.If there is no desire, relishing, and craving for edible food, consciousness does not become established there and doesn’t grow.6.2Yattha appatiṭṭhitaṁ viññāṇaṁ avirūḷhaṁ, natthi tattha nāmarūpassa avakkanti.Where consciousness is not established and doesn’t grow, name and form are not conceived.6.3Yattha natthi nāmarūpassa avakkanti, natthi tattha saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi.Where name and form are not conceived, there is no growth of choices.6.4Yattha natthi saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi, natthi tattha āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti.Where choices don’t grow, there is no regeneration into a new state of existence in the future.6.5Yattha natthi āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti, natthi tattha āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ.Where there is no regeneration into a new state of existence in the future, there is no rebirth, old age, and death in the future.6.6Yattha natthi āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ, asokaṁ taṁ, bhikkhave, adaraṁ anupāyāsanti vadāmi.Where there is no rebirth, old age, and death in the future, I say there’s no sorrow, anguish, and distress.

7.1PTS 2.103Phasse ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …pe…If there is no desire, relishing, and craving for contact as fuel …7.2manosañcetanāya ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …If there is no desire, relishing, and craving for mental intention as fuel …7.3viññāṇe ce, bhikkhave, āhāre natthi rāgo natthi nandī natthi taṇhā, appatiṭṭhitaṁ tattha viññāṇaṁ avirūḷhaṁ.If there is no desire, relishing, and craving for consciousness as fuel, consciousness doesn’t become established there and doesn’t grow.7.4Yattha appatiṭṭhitaṁ viññāṇaṁ avirūḷhaṁ, natthi tattha nāmarūpassa avakkanti.Where consciousness is not established and doesn’t grow, name and form are not conceived.7.5Yattha natthi nāmarūpassa avakkanti, natthi tattha saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi.Where name and form are not conceived, there is no growth of choices.7.6Yattha natthi saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi, natthi tattha āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti.Where choices don’t grow, there is no regeneration into a new state of existence in the future.7.7Yattha natthi āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti, natthi tattha āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ.Where there is no regeneration into a new state of existence in the future, there is no rebirth, old age, and death in the future.7.8Yattha natthi āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ, asokaṁ taṁ, bhikkhave, adaraṁ anupāyāsanti vadāmi.Where there is no rebirth, old age, and death in the future, I say there’s no sorrow, anguish, and distress.

8.1Seyyathāpi, bhikkhave, kūṭāgāraṁ vā kūṭāgārasālaṁ vā uttarāya vā dakkhiṇāya vā pācīnāya vā vātapānā sūriye uggacchante vātapānena rasmi pavisitvā kvāssa patiṭṭhitā”ti?Suppose there was a bungalow or a hall with a peaked roof, with windows on the northern, southern, or eastern side. When the sun rises and a ray of light enters through a window, where would it land?”

8.2“Pacchimāyaṁ, bhante, bhittiyan”ti.“On the western wall, sir.”

8.3“Pacchimā ce, bhikkhave, bhitti nāssa kvāssa patiṭṭhitā”ti?“If there was no western wall, where would it land?”

8.4“Pathaviyaṁ, bhante”ti.“On the ground, sir.”

8.5“Pathavī ce, bhikkhave, nāssa kvāssa patiṭṭhitā”ti?“If there was no ground, where would it land?”

8.6“Āpasmiṁ, bhante”ti.“In water, sir.”

8.7“Āpo ce, bhikkhave, nāssa kvāssa patiṭṭhitā”ti?“If there was no water, where would it land?”

8.8“Appatiṭṭhitā, bhante”ti.“It wouldn’t land, sir.”4

8.9“Evameva kho, bhikkhave, kabaḷīkāre ce āhāre natthi rāgo natthi nandī natthi taṇhā …pe….“In the same way, if there is no desire, relishing, and craving for edible food, consciousness does not become established there and doesn’t grow. …

9.1PTS 2.104Phasse ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …If there is no desire, relishing, and craving for contact as fuel …9.2manosañcetanāya ce, bhikkhave, āhāre …If there is no desire, relishing, and craving for mental intention as fuel …9.3viññāṇe ce, bhikkhave, āhāre natthi rāgo natthi nandī natthi taṇhā, appatiṭṭhitaṁ tattha viññāṇaṁ avirūḷhaṁ.If there is no desire, relishing, and craving for consciousness as fuel, consciousness doesn’t become established there and doesn’t grow.9.4Yattha appatiṭṭhitaṁ viññāṇaṁ avirūḷhaṁ, natthi tattha nāmarūpassa avakkanti.Where consciousness is not established and doesn’t grow, name and form are not conceived.9.5Yattha natthi nāmarūpassa avakkanti, natthi tattha saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi.Where name and form are not conceived, there is no growth of choices.9.6Yattha natthi saṅkhārānaṁ vuddhi, natthi tattha āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti.Where choices don’t grow, there is no regeneration into a new state of existence in the future.9.7Yattha natthi āyatiṁ punabbhavābhinibbatti, natthi tattha āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ.Where there is no regeneration into a new state of existence in the future, there is no rebirth, old age, and death in the future.9.8Yattha natthi āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇaṁ asokaṁ taṁ, bhikkhave, adaraṁ anupāyāsanti vadāmī”ti.Where there is no rebirth, old age, and death in the future, I say there’s no sorrow, anguish, and distress.”

9.9Catutthaṁ.

Translator’s notes

  1. Consciousness is organic, established or planted like a seed, for which see also SN 22.54, AN 3.76, AN 3.77.

    ↩ sn12.64:2.1
  2. As an individual matures, they develop the capacity to make responsible moral decisions.

    ↩ sn12.64:2.3
  3. Here choices in this life directly beget rebirth, which is normally stated as “consciousness”.

    ↩ sn12.64:2.4
  4. If a beam of light does not land anywhere, it cannot perform its key function, namely to illuminate. Likewise, if consciousness is not established in craving, it cannot perform its key function of perpetuating the cycle of rebirth.

    ↩ sn12.64:8.8