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The Questions of the Student Puṇṇaka

Puṇṇakamāṇavapucchā

Birth and aging can be overcome, not through sacrificial rituals, but through training the mind to go beyond perturbation.

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato · Pāli: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka · Public domain (CC0) via SuttaCentral

  • 0.1Sutta Nipāta 5.4Anthology of Discourses 5.4

0.2PuṇṇakamāṇavapucchāThe Questions of Puṇṇaka

1.1“Anejaṁ mūladassāviṁ,“To the imperturbable, the seer of the root,”1.2(iccāyasmā puṇṇako)said Venerable Puṇṇaka,1.3Atthi pañhena āgamaṁ;“I have come seeking with a question.1.4Kiṁ nissitā isayo manujā,On what grounds have seers and men,1.5Khattiyā brāhmaṇā devatānaṁ;aristocrats and brahmins here in the world1.6Yaññamakappayiṁsu puthūdha loke,performed so many different <j>sacrifices to the gods?1.7Pucchāmi taṁ bhagavā brūhi me taṁ”.I ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this.”

2.1“Ye kecime isayo manujā,“Whatever seers and men,”2.2(puṇṇakāti bhagavā)replied the Buddha,2.3Khattiyā brāhmaṇā devatānaṁ;“aristocrats and brahmins here in the world2.4Yaññamakappayiṁsu puthūdha loke,have performed so many different <j>sacrifices to the gods:2.5Āsīsamānā puṇṇaka itthattaṁ;all performed sacrifices bound to old age,2.6Jaraṁ sitā yaññamakappayiṁsu”.longing for this place.”

3.1“Ye kecime isayo manujā,“As to those seers and men,”3.2(iccāyasmā puṇṇako)said Venerable Puṇṇaka,3.3Khattiyā brāhmaṇā devatānaṁ;“and aristocrats and brahmins here in the world3.4Yaññamakappayiṁsu puthūdha loke,who have performed so many different <j>sacrifices to the gods:3.5Kaccissu te bhagavā yaññapathe appamattā;being diligent in the technique of sacrifice,3.6Atāruṁ jātiñca jarañca mārisa,have they crossed over rebirth and old age, good fellow?3.7Pucchāmi taṁ bhagavā brūhi me taṁ”.I ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this.”

4.1“Āsīsanti thomayanti abhijappanti juhanti,“Hoping, invoking, praying, and worshiping,”4.2(puṇṇakāti bhagavā)replied the Buddha,4.3Kāmābhijappanti paṭicca lābhaṁ;“they pray for pleasure derived from profit.4.4Te yājayogā bhavarāgarattā,Devoted to sacrifice, besotted by rebirth,4.5Nātariṁsu jātijaranti brūmi”.they’ve not crossed over rebirth and old age, <j>I declare.”

5.1“Te ce nātariṁsu yājayogā,“If those devoted to sacrifice,”5.2(iccāyasmā puṇṇako)said Venerable Puṇṇaka,5.3Yaññehi jātiñca jarañca mārisa;“have not, by sacrificing, <j>crossed over rebirth and old age,5.4Atha ko carahi devamanussaloke,who then in the world of gods and humans5.5Atāri jātiñca jarañca mārisa;has crossed over rebirth and old age, good fellow?5.6Pucchāmi taṁ bhagavā brūhi me taṁ”.I ask you, Blessed One; please tell me this.”

6.1“Saṅkhāya lokasmi paroparāni,“Having appraised the world high and low,”6.2(puṇṇakāti bhagavā)replied the Buddha,6.3Yassiñjitaṁ natthi kuhiñci loke;“there is nothing in the world that disturbs them.6.4Santo vidhūmo anīgho nirāso,Peaceful, unclouded, untroubled, <j>with no need for hope—6.5Atāri so jātijaranti brūmī”ti.they’ve crossed over rebirth and old age, I declare.”

6.6Puṇṇakamāṇavapucchā tatiyā.