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A Boaster

Katthīsutta

Venerable Mahācunda teaches that when a mendicant boasts about spiritual attainments, the Buddha or another accomplished meditator examines them.

Translated by Bhikkhu Sujato · Pāli: Mahāsaṅgīti Tipiṭaka · Public domain (CC0) via SuttaCentral

  • 0.1Aṅguttara Nikāya 10.85Numbered Discourses 10.85
  • 0.29. Theravagga9. Senior Mendicants

0.3KatthīsuttaA Boaster

1.1Ekaṁ samayaṁ āyasmā mahācundo cetīsu viharati sahajātiyaṁ.At one time Venerable Mahācunda was staying in the land of the Cetīs at Sahajāti.1.2Tatra kho āyasmā mahācundo bhikkhū āmantesi:There he addressed the mendicants:1.3“āvuso bhikkhave”ti.“Reverends, mendicants!”

1.4“Āvuso”ti kho te bhikkhū āyasmato mahācundassa paccassosuṁ.“Reverend,” they replied.1.5Āyasmā mahācundo etadavoca:Venerable Mahācunda said this:

2.1PTS 5.158“Idhāvuso, bhikkhu katthī hoti vikatthī adhigamesu:“Take a mendicant who boasts and brags about their achievements:2.2‘ahaṁ paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ catutthaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ ākāsānañcāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ viññāṇañcāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ ākiñcaññāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ nevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipī’ti.‘I enter and emerge from the first absorption, the second absorption, the third absorption, and the fourth absorption. And I enter and emerge from the dimensions of infinite space, infinite consciousness, nothingness, and neither perception nor non-perception. And I enter and emerge from the cessation of perception and feeling.’

3.1Tamenaṁ tathāgato vā tathāgatasāvako vā jhāyī samāpattikusalo paracittakusalo paracittapariyāyakusalo samanuyuñjati samanuggāhati samanubhāsati.They’re pursued, pressed, and grilled by the Realized One, or by one of his disciples who has the absorptions, and is skilled in attainments, in the minds of others, and in encompassing another’s mind.3.2So tathāgatena vā tathāgatasāvakena vā jhāyinā samāpattikusalena paracittakusalena paracittapariyāyakusalena samanuyuñjiyamāno samanuggāhiyamāno samanubhāsiyamāno irīṇaṁ āpajjati vicinaṁ āpajjati anayaṁ āpajjati byasanaṁ āpajjati anayabyasanaṁ āpajjati.Grilled in this way they get stuck or lose their way. They fall to ruin and disaster.

4.1Tamenaṁ tathāgato vā tathāgatasāvako vā jhāyī samāpattikusalo paracittakusalo paracittapariyāyakusalo evaṁ cetasā ceto paricca manasi karoti:The Realized One or one of his disciples encompasses their mind and investigates:4.2‘kiṁ nu kho ayamāyasmā katthī hoti vikatthī adhigamesu—‘Why does this venerable boast and brag about their achievements, saying,4.3ahaṁ paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi …pe…“I enter and emerge from the first absorption …4.4ahaṁ saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipī’ti.and the cessation of perception and feeling.”’

5.1Tamenaṁ tathāgato vā tathāgatasāvako vā jhāyī samāpattikusalo paracittakusalo paracittapariyāyakusalo evaṁ cetasā ceto paricca pajānāti:They understand,6.1‘Dīgharattaṁ kho ayamāyasmā khaṇḍakārī chiddakārī sabalakārī kammāsakārī na santatakārī na santatavutti sīlesu.‘For a long time this venerable’s deeds have been broken, tainted, spotty, and marred. Their deeds and behavior are inconsistent.6.2Dussīlo kho ayamāyasmā.This venerable is unethical,6.3Dussilyaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and unethical conduct means decline in the teaching and training proclaimed by the Realized One.

7.1Assaddho kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is unfaithful,7.2assaddhiyaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and lack of faith means decline …

8.1PTS 5.159Appassuto kho pana ayamāyasmā anācāro;This venerable is unlearned and unpracticed,8.2appasaccaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and lack of learning means decline …

9.1Dubbaco kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is hard to admonish,9.2dovacassatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and being hard to admonish means decline …

10.1Pāpamitto kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable has bad friends,10.2pāpamittatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and bad friends mean decline …

11.1Kusīto kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is lazy,11.2kosajjaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and laziness means decline …

12.1Muṭṭhassati kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is unmindful,12.2muṭṭhassaccaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and unmindfulness means decline …

13.1Kuhako kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is deceptive,13.2kohaññaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and deceitfulness means decline …

14.1Dubbharo kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is burdensome,14.2dubbharatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and being burdensome means decline …

15.1Duppañño kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is witless,15.2duppaññatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ’.and lack of wisdom means decline in the teaching and training proclaimed by the Realized One.’

16.1PTS 5.160Seyyathāpi, āvuso, sahāyako sahāyakaṁ evaṁ vadeyya:Suppose one friend was to say to another:16.2‘yadā te, samma, dhanena dhanakaraṇīyaṁ assa, yāceyyāsi maṁ dhanaṁ. Dassāmi te dhanan’ti.‘My dear, when you need money for some payment, just ask me and I’ll give it.’16.3So kiñcideva dhanakaraṇīye samuppanne sahāyako sahāyakaṁ evaṁ vadeyya: ‘attho me, samma, dhanena. Dehi me dhanan’ti.Then when some payment falls due, that friend says to their friend: ‘I need some money, my dear. Give me some.’16.4So evaṁ vadeyya:They’d say:16.5‘tena hi, samma, idha khanāhī’ti. So tatra khananto nādhigaccheyya.‘Well then, my dear, dig here.’ So they dig there, but don’t find anything.16.6So evaṁ vadeyya:They’d say:16.7‘alikaṁ maṁ, samma, avaca; tucchakaṁ maṁ, samma, avaca—idha khanāhī’ti.‘You lied to me, my dear, you spoke hollow words when you told me to dig here.’16.8So evaṁ vadeyya:They’d say:16.9‘nāhaṁ taṁ, samma, alikaṁ avacaṁ, tucchakaṁ avacaṁ. Tena hi, samma, idha khanāhī’ti.‘My dear, I didn’t lie or speak hollow words. Well then, dig here.’16.10So tatrapi khananto nādhigaccheyya.So they dig there as well, but don’t find anything.16.11So evaṁ vadeyya:They’d say:16.12‘alikaṁ maṁ, samma, avaca, tucchakaṁ maṁ, samma, avaca—idha khanāhī’ti.‘You lied to me, my dear, you spoke hollow words when you said dig here.’16.13So evaṁ vadeyya:They’d say:16.14‘nāhaṁ taṁ, samma, alikaṁ avacaṁ, tucchakaṁ avacaṁ. Tena hi, samma, idha khanāhī’ti.‘My dear, I didn’t lie or speak hollow words. Well then, dig here.’16.15So tatrapi khananto nādhigaccheyya.So they dig there as well, but don’t find anything.16.16So evaṁ vadeyya:They’d say:16.17‘alikaṁ maṁ, samma, avaca, tucchakaṁ maṁ, samma, avaca—idha khanāhī’ti.‘You lied to me, my dear, you spoke hollow words when you said dig here.’16.18So evaṁ vadeyya:They’d say:16.19‘nāhaṁ taṁ, samma, alikaṁ avacaṁ, tucchakaṁ avacaṁ. Api ca ahameva ummādaṁ pāpuṇiṁ cetaso vipariyāyan’ti.‘My dear, I didn’t lie or speak hollow words. But I had gone mad, I was out of my mind.’

17.1Evamevaṁ kho, āvuso, bhikkhu katthī hoti vikatthī adhigamesu:In the same way, take a mendicant who boasts and brags about their achievements:17.2‘ahaṁ paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ catutthaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ ākāsānañcāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ viññāṇañcāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ ākiñcaññāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ nevasaññānāsaññāyatanaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipi, ahaṁ saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipī’ti.‘I enter and emerge from the first absorption … and the cessation of perception and feeling.’

18.1Tamenaṁ tathāgato vā tathāgatasāvako vā jhāyī samāpattikusalo paracittakusalo paracittapariyāyakusalo samanuyuñjati samanuggāhati samanubhāsati.They’re pursued, pressed, and grilled by the Realized One, or by one of his disciples …18.2So tathāgatena vā tathāgatasāvakena vā jhāyinā samāpattikusalena paracittakusalena paracittapariyāyakusalena samanuyuñjiyamāno samanuggāhiyamāno samanubhāsiyamāno irīṇaṁ āpajjati vicinaṁ āpajjati anayaṁ āpajjati byasanaṁ āpajjati anayabyasanaṁ āpajjati.Grilled in this way they get stuck or lose their way. They fall to ruin and disaster.

19.1Tamenaṁ tathāgato vā tathāgatasāvako vā jhāyī samāpattikusalo paracittakusalo paracittapariyāyakusalo evaṁ cetasā ceto paricca manasi karoti:The Realized One or one of his disciples encompasses their mind and investigates:19.2‘kiṁ nu kho ayamāyasmā katthī hoti vikatthī adhigamesu—‘Why does this venerable boast and brag about their achievements, saying,19.3ahaṁ paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ samāpajjāmipi …pe…“I enter and emerge from the first absorption …19.4ahaṁ saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ samāpajjāmipi vuṭṭhahāmipī’ti.and the cessation of perception and feeling.”’

20.1Tamenaṁ tathāgato vā tathāgatasāvako vā jhāyī samāpattikusalo paracittapariyāyakusalo cetasā ceto paricca pajānāti:They understand,21.1PTS 5.161‘Dīgharattaṁ kho ayamāyasmā khaṇḍakārī chiddakārī sabalakārī kammāsakārī, na santatakārī na santatavutti sīlesu.‘For a long time this venerable’s deeds have been broken, tainted, spotty, and marred. Their deeds and behavior are inconsistent.21.2Dussīlo kho ayamāyasmā;This venerable is unethical,21.3dussilyaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.and unethical conduct means decline in the teaching and training proclaimed by the Realized One.

22.1Assaddho kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is unfaithful …22.2assaddhiyaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

23.1Appassuto kho pana ayamāyasmā anācāro;unlearned and unpracticed …23.2appasaccaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

24.1Dubbaco kho pana ayamāyasmā;hard to admonish …24.2dovacassatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

25.1Pāpamitto kho pana ayamāyasmā;with bad friends …25.2pāpamittatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

26.1Kusīto kho pana ayamāyasmā;lazy …26.2kosajjaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

27.1Muṭṭhassati kho pana ayamāyasmā;unmindful …27.2muṭṭhassaccaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

28.1Kuhako kho pana ayamāyasmā;deceptive …28.2kohaññaṁ kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

29.1Dubbharo kho pana ayamāyasmā;burdensome …29.2dubbharatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ.

30.1Duppañño kho pana ayamāyasmā;This venerable is witless,30.2duppaññatā kho pana tathāgatappavedite dhammavinaye parihānametaṁ’.and lack of wisdom means decline in the teaching and training proclaimed by the Realized One.’

31.1So vatāvuso, bhikkhu ‘ime dasa dhamme appahāya imasmiṁ dhammavinaye vuddhiṁ virūḷhiṁ vepullaṁ āpajjissatī’ti netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.It is quite impossible for a mendicant to achieve growth, improvement, or maturity in this teaching and training without giving up these ten qualities.31.2So vatāvuso, bhikkhu ‘ime dasa dhamme pahāya imasmiṁ dhammavinaye vuddhiṁ virūḷhiṁ vepullaṁ āpajjissatī’ti ṭhānametaṁ vijjatī”ti.It is quite possible for a mendicant to achieve growth, improvement, or maturity in this teaching and training after giving up these ten qualities.”

31.3Pañcamaṁ.