- 0.1Dīgha Nikāya 7Long Discourses 7
0.2JāliyasuttaWith Jāliya
1.1PTS 1.159Evaṁ me sutaṁ—So I have heard.1.2ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā kosambiyaṁ viharati ghositārāme.At one time the Buddha was staying near Kosambī in Ghosita’s monastery.1
1.3Tena kho pana samayena dve pabbajitā—Now at that time two renunciates—1.4muṇḍiyo ca paribbājako jāliyo ca dārupattikantevāsī yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkamiṁsu; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavatā saddhiṁ sammodiṁsu.the wanderer Muṇḍiya and Jāliya, the pupil of the wood-bowl ascetic—came to the Buddha and exchanged greetings with him.1.5Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ aṭṭhaṁsu. Ekamantaṁ ṭhitā kho te dve pabbajitā bhagavantaṁ etadavocuṁ:When the greetings and polite conversation were over, they stood to one side and said to the Buddha,1.6“kiṁ nu kho, āvuso gotama, taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ, udāhu aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran”ti?“Reverend Gotama, are the soul and the body one and the same, or is the soul one thing, the body another?”
1.7“Tena hāvuso, suṇātha sādhukaṁ manasi karotha, bhāsissāmī”ti.“Well then, reverends, listen and apply your mind well, I will speak.”
1.8“Evamāvuso”ti kho te dve pabbajitā bhagavato paccassosuṁ.“Yes, reverend,” they replied.1.9Bhagavā etadavoca:The Buddha said this:
2.1“idhāvuso, tathāgato loke uppajjati arahaṁ, sammāsambuddho …pe…“Take the case when a Realized One arises in the world, perfected, a fully awakened Buddha …2.2Evaṁ kho, āvuso, bhikkhu sīlasampanno hoti.That’s how a mendicant is accomplished in ethics. …
2.3PTS 1.160…pe…2.4Paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.They enter and remain in the first absorption …2.5Yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya:When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them:2.6‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’?”
2.7Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ tassetaṁ vacanāya:“It would, reverend.”2.8‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.
2.9Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi.“But reverends, I know and see like this.2.10Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi:Nevertheless, I do not say:2.11‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā …pe…‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’. …
3.1dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ …They enter and remain in the second absorption …3.2tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ …third absorption …3.3catutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.fourth absorption.3.4Yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya:When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them:3.5‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti?‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’?”
3.6Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati kallaṁ, tassetaṁ vacanāya:“It would, reverend.”3.7‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.
3.8Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi.“But reverends, I know and see like this.3.9Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi:Nevertheless, I do not say:3.10‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā …pe…‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’. …
4.1ñāṇadassanāya cittaṁ abhinīharati abhininnāmeti …They project and extend the mind toward knowledge and vision …4.2yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya:When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them:4.3‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’?”
4.4Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati kallaṁ tassetaṁ vacanāya:“It would, reverend.”4.5‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.
4.6Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi.“But reverends, I know and see like this.4.7Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi:Nevertheless, I do not say:4.8‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā …pe….‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’. …
5.1…pe… Nāparaṁ itthattāyāti pajānāti.They understand: ‘… there is nothing further for this place.’5.2Yo kho, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, kallaṁ nu kho tassetaṁ vacanāya:When a mendicant knows and sees like this, would it be appropriate to say of them:5.3‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti?‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’?”
5.4Yo so, āvuso, bhikkhu evaṁ jānāti evaṁ passati, na kallaṁ tassetaṁ vacanāya:“It would not, reverend.”5.5‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vāti.
5.6Ahaṁ kho panetaṁ, āvuso, evaṁ jānāmi evaṁ passāmi.“But reverends, I know and see like this.5.7Atha ca panāhaṁ na vadāmi:Nevertheless, I do not say:5.8‘taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīran’ti vā ‘aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīran’ti vā”ti.‘The soul and the body are one and the same’ or ‘The soul is one thing, the body another’.”
5.9Idamavoca bhagavā.That is what the Buddha said.5.10Attamanā te dve pabbajitā bhagavato bhāsitaṁ abhinandunti.Satisfied, the two renunciates approved what the Buddha said.
5.11Jāliyasuttaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ sattamaṁ.